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Message-ID:<4932BC20.4090103@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:28 +0100
I just installed Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3. So far I've found (true in 2.6.2 also): o Shift-Ctrl-A in the toolbox for select-none is flagged as disabled and can't be enabled. This worked for me a year or so ago, I think it was 2.4. o the user's copy of gimprc doesn't seem to be executed. At least inserting: (toolbox-wilber no) has no effect. It should take the Wilber image out of the top of the toolbox window to give you more real estate (Episode 66 of meetthegimp). o dragging a file into the toolbox or image window does not open the file. (dragging it onto the gimp application does open the file) o right clicking on a selected layer does not pop up the layer options. (Ctrl-Click on a Mac). It does nothing. I have to go to the image window and select the Layer menu item, then Mask or Transparency to get to the options I want. o local help remains disabled in this version. I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4 or 2.6.????
Message-ID:<umyffk4v5.fsf@gmx.de>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:38:54 +0100
John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes:
> I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac
> coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4
> or 2.6.????
There are no Mac coders, the same source code is supposed to build and
work on all platforms.
Providing pre-built binaries for the platforms is usually done by
volunteers, and they should also know about any platform-specific
problems.
This is the first time that someone complains about non-working
shortcuts, though, so it might be a problem of your system.
HTH,
Michael
--
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Message-ID:<493462EE.4060504@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:19:26 +0100
Michael Schumacher wrote: > John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes: > >> I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac >> coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4 >> or 2.6.???? > > There are no Mac coders, the same source code is supposed to build and > work on all platforms. The Mac code seems to lag behind by weeks or more, so I think they may need to tweak some of the code to make it work, unfortunately. And it seems rough edges still are there in Mac Gimp 2.6.3. > Providing pre-built binaries for the platforms is usually done by > volunteers, and they should also know about any platform-specific > problems. > > This is the first time that someone complains about non-working > shortcuts, though, so it might be a problem of your system. > > > HTH, > Michael I tried to get to the Gimp mailing lists, but was roadblocked as I described in another post on this group, as here: > I just followed a link to Gimp mailing lists at: > > http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html > > and when I click on any of them I get: > > Secure Connection Failed > > lists.xcf.berkeley.edu uses an invalid security certificate. > > The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed. > The certificate expired on 11/6/06 4:06 PM. > > (Error code: sec_error_expired_issuer_certificate) > > Is this not the "correct" place for Gimp mailing lists? > > Thanks! I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle, or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they actually run the lists. And it looks like the only other way to ask about Gimp bugs is to submit the heavy weight highly formal intense automated bug report system (through filezilla or some such). I did one of these about 10 years ago on some program, and about every 18 months I'd get an automated email that someone had moved it here to there, or someone else had reported it, but no one ever solved the problem! So I'm sure that would go well. Anyway, I haven't found any easy way to talk about Mac gimp other than here, and it seems there aren't any or many Mac Gimp users here. It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases. It looks like I picked a bad time to try (yet again) to learn more Gimp. My last foray was about 8 months ago before I got on to other things. I came back, upgraded, and found some things that worked before don't now. Guess I'll move on to other things again and come back some time in the future. At least each time I have a slightly elevated base of knowledge. Some day it may all work! Thanks!
Message-ID:<uiqq3jy2o.fsf@gmx.de>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:05:35 +0100
John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes:
> The Mac code seems to lag behind by weeks or more, so I think they
> may need to tweak some of the code to make it work, unfortunately.
If they have to and do not report this, then this would be
unfortunate, indeed. But as there are some users who build the source
code of GIMP on OS X without problems - even from SVN checkouts - I do
not think that is the problem.
> And it seems rough edges still are there in Mac Gimp 2.6.3.
Yes.
> I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using
> my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it
> may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle,
> or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they
> actually run the lists.
Yes, they should. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389193
> It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases.
Well, it's as simple as this:
If an isolated problem like yours is not reported as a bug, then it
won't get fixed.
HTH,
Michael
--
GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp
Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de
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Message-ID:<493489EE.6010600@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:05:50 +0100
Michael Schumacher wrote: > John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes: > >> I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using >> my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it >> may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle, >> or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they >> actually run the lists. > > Yes, they should. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389193 Ah, I see. It was only reported in 2006. I guess my other forgotten question on bugzilla (> 10 years old) may yet be solved then! ;-) >> It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases. > > Well, it's as simple as this: > > If an isolated problem like yours is not reported as a bug, then it > won't get fixed. Well, I don't really believe it is an isolated problem. The 2.4 version I had was performing better. And I don't have any problem with all the three dozen or more applications I use almost daily on my Mac. This strongly suggests shortcomings in the dmg, or something really silly I'm doing with the application. Which wouldn't be a full blown bug reportable issue. So I think I'll wait a couple of releases. However long they take. So now, back to Financial programs and genealogy, and finish writing that Sudoku puzzle solver (I know others have posted many of these, I just like the challenge of coding it myself), and,... I'll revisit Gimp some day... :-)
Message-ID:<7b7a5c41-6e77-44fe-844c-46cedda6b566@a12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:40:39 +0100
There is a couple of programmers which works for Gimp (to count on the fingers of one hand, if they reached to a dozen, then is it all), and they give us for free an extrem enjoyful experience, nevertheless, nothing is perfect and nobody. But, after all, i think that's time for an Mac osx designed Gimp! Yes. If i could, i would begin immediately to write code for this great application! My Gimp (2.6.3) doesn't work well, how your one...
Message-ID:<uoczp5zo0.fsf@gmx.de>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:08:31 +0100
Jo_y <jo_y@operamail.com> writes:
> But, after all, i think that's time for an Mac osx designed Gimp! Yes.
Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first?
Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS
X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based
developers.
Michael
--
GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp
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Message-ID:<6cf78846-eb10-4d13-aab2-3478e5311232@v38g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:31:36 +0100
> Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first? I mean an aqua -like interface, in pure Leopard design. If i could, i would start immediately to script and to code for Gimp, without hesitating. But this type of conversion isn't possible, because this would mean, programming it from scratch and cut the Navel cord with the Gimp- developers, which works in maior number on Linux (a very good selection) > Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS > X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based > developers. Yes..exactly, X11 is the problem... or whatever else windowing support, the endless add-ons drives me crazy. (much fewer is much better, because.. we know. It depends from the situation, i understand, but an solution must have a closely form, i mean, minor code, but quality code, instead of a couple of scripts- i exaggerate, in order to represent it more clearly) Anyway, i don't want to underestimate or minimize -in any case- the big effort of numerous programmers around the globe, everybody with his experiences, (programming knowledge) and his groups, because this generous mens and womens code in the good meaning to contribut a bit to their preferred application, Gimp, excluding the problems of platform compatibility, which operates in general very! well Bigger than an application becomes, and more force(s) are needed to control this 'Baby'
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Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:18:41 +0100
On 7 Dez., 16:31, Jo_y <j...@operamail.com> wrote: > > Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first? > I mean an aqua -like interface, in pure Leopard design. > > Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS > > X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based > > developers. > > Yes..exactly, X11 is the problem... Exactly. And this is why Imendio has started porting GTK+ to OS X natively, see http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx Of course there's still a lot to do - the current state is described as unusable by most developers. Anyone who is interested in helping should have a look at the open bugs: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=gtk%2B&component=quartz&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO Michael
Message-ID:<4932BC20.4090103@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:28 +0100
I just installed Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3. So far I've found (true in 2.6.2 also): o Shift-Ctrl-A in the toolbox for select-none is flagged as disabled and can't be enabled. This worked for me a year or so ago, I think it was 2.4. o the user's copy of gimprc doesn't seem to be executed. At least inserting: (toolbox-wilber no) has no effect. It should take the Wilber image out of the top of the toolbox window to give you more real estate (Episode 66 of meetthegimp). o dragging a file into the toolbox or image window does not open the file. (dragging it onto the gimp application does open the file) o right clicking on a selected layer does not pop up the layer options. (Ctrl-Click on a Mac). It does nothing. I have to go to the image window and select the Layer menu item, then Mask or Transparency to get to the options I want. o local help remains disabled in this version. I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4 or 2.6.????
Message-ID:<umyffk4v5.fsf@gmx.de>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:38:54 +0100
John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes:
> I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac
> coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4
> or 2.6.????
There are no Mac coders, the same source code is supposed to build and
work on all platforms.
Providing pre-built binaries for the platforms is usually done by
volunteers, and they should also know about any platform-specific
problems.
This is the first time that someone complains about non-working
shortcuts, though, so it might be a problem of your system.
HTH,
Michael
--
GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp
Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de
Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org |
Message-ID:<493462EE.4060504@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:19:26 +0100
Michael Schumacher wrote: > John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes: > >> I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac >> coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4 >> or 2.6.???? > > There are no Mac coders, the same source code is supposed to build and > work on all platforms. The Mac code seems to lag behind by weeks or more, so I think they may need to tweak some of the code to make it work, unfortunately. And it seems rough edges still are there in Mac Gimp 2.6.3. > Providing pre-built binaries for the platforms is usually done by > volunteers, and they should also know about any platform-specific > problems. > > This is the first time that someone complains about non-working > shortcuts, though, so it might be a problem of your system. > > > HTH, > Michael I tried to get to the Gimp mailing lists, but was roadblocked as I described in another post on this group, as here: > I just followed a link to Gimp mailing lists at: > > http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html > > and when I click on any of them I get: > > Secure Connection Failed > > lists.xcf.berkeley.edu uses an invalid security certificate. > > The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed. > The certificate expired on 11/6/06 4:06 PM. > > (Error code: sec_error_expired_issuer_certificate) > > Is this not the "correct" place for Gimp mailing lists? > > Thanks! I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle, or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they actually run the lists. And it looks like the only other way to ask about Gimp bugs is to submit the heavy weight highly formal intense automated bug report system (through filezilla or some such). I did one of these about 10 years ago on some program, and about every 18 months I'd get an automated email that someone had moved it here to there, or someone else had reported it, but no one ever solved the problem! So I'm sure that would go well. Anyway, I haven't found any easy way to talk about Mac gimp other than here, and it seems there aren't any or many Mac Gimp users here. It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases. It looks like I picked a bad time to try (yet again) to learn more Gimp. My last foray was about 8 months ago before I got on to other things. I came back, upgraded, and found some things that worked before don't now. Guess I'll move on to other things again and come back some time in the future. At least each time I have a slightly elevated base of knowledge. Some day it may all work! Thanks!
Message-ID:<uiqq3jy2o.fsf@gmx.de>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:05:35 +0100
John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes:
> The Mac code seems to lag behind by weeks or more, so I think they
> may need to tweak some of the code to make it work, unfortunately.
If they have to and do not report this, then this would be
unfortunate, indeed. But as there are some users who build the source
code of GIMP on OS X without problems - even from SVN checkouts - I do
not think that is the problem.
> And it seems rough edges still are there in Mac Gimp 2.6.3.
Yes.
> I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using
> my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it
> may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle,
> or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they
> actually run the lists.
Yes, they should. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389193
> It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases.
Well, it's as simple as this:
If an isolated problem like yours is not reported as a bug, then it
won't get fixed.
HTH,
Michael
--
GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp
Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de
Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org |
Message-ID:<493489EE.6010600@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:05:50 +0100
Michael Schumacher wrote: > John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes: > >> I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using >> my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it >> may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle, >> or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they >> actually run the lists. > > Yes, they should. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389193 Ah, I see. It was only reported in 2006. I guess my other forgotten question on bugzilla (> 10 years old) may yet be solved then! ;-) >> It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases. > > Well, it's as simple as this: > > If an isolated problem like yours is not reported as a bug, then it > won't get fixed. Well, I don't really believe it is an isolated problem. The 2.4 version I had was performing better. And I don't have any problem with all the three dozen or more applications I use almost daily on my Mac. This strongly suggests shortcomings in the dmg, or something really silly I'm doing with the application. Which wouldn't be a full blown bug reportable issue. So I think I'll wait a couple of releases. However long they take. So now, back to Financial programs and genealogy, and finish writing that Sudoku puzzle solver (I know others have posted many of these, I just like the challenge of coding it myself), and,... I'll revisit Gimp some day... :-)
Message-ID:<7b7a5c41-6e77-44fe-844c-46cedda6b566@a12g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:40:39 +0100
There is a couple of programmers which works for Gimp (to count on the fingers of one hand, if they reached to a dozen, then is it all), and they give us for free an extrem enjoyful experience, nevertheless, nothing is perfect and nobody. But, after all, i think that's time for an Mac osx designed Gimp! Yes. If i could, i would begin immediately to write code for this great application! My Gimp (2.6.3) doesn't work well, how your one...
Message-ID:<uoczp5zo0.fsf@gmx.de>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:08:31 +0100
Jo_y <jo_y@operamail.com> writes:
> But, after all, i think that's time for an Mac osx designed Gimp! Yes.
Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first?
Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS
X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based
developers.
Michael
--
GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp
Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de
Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org |
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Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:31:36 +0100
> Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first? I mean an aqua -like interface, in pure Leopard design. If i could, i would start immediately to script and to code for Gimp, without hesitating. But this type of conversion isn't possible, because this would mean, programming it from scratch and cut the Navel cord with the Gimp- developers, which works in maior number on Linux (a very good selection) > Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS > X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based > developers. Yes..exactly, X11 is the problem... or whatever else windowing support, the endless add-ons drives me crazy. (much fewer is much better, because.. we know. It depends from the situation, i understand, but an solution must have a closely form, i mean, minor code, but quality code, instead of a couple of scripts- i exaggerate, in order to represent it more clearly) Anyway, i don't want to underestimate or minimize -in any case- the big effort of numerous programmers around the globe, everybody with his experiences, (programming knowledge) and his groups, because this generous mens and womens code in the good meaning to contribut a bit to their preferred application, Gimp, excluding the problems of platform compatibility, which operates in general very! well Bigger than an application becomes, and more force(s) are needed to control this 'Baby'
Message-ID:<08d40d11-c1fb-4624-b898-833302062899@20g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:18:41 +0100
On 7 Dez., 16:31, Jo_y <j...@operamail.com> wrote: > > Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first? > I mean an aqua -like interface, in pure Leopard design. > > Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS > > X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based > > developers. > > Yes..exactly, X11 is the problem... Exactly. And this is why Imendio has started porting GTK+ to OS X natively, see http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx Of course there's still a lot to do - the current state is described as unusable by most developers. Anyone who is interested in helping should have a look at the open bugs: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=gtk%2B&component=quartz&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO Michael
Message-ID:<4932BC20.4090103@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:15:28 +0100
I just installed Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3. So far I've found (true in 2.6.2 also): o Shift-Ctrl-A in the toolbox for select-none is flagged as disabled and can't be enabled. This worked for me a year or so ago, I think it was 2.4. o the user's copy of gimprc doesn't seem to be executed. At least inserting: (toolbox-wilber no) has no effect. It should take the Wilber image out of the top of the toolbox window to give you more real estate (Episode 66 of meetthegimp). o dragging a file into the toolbox or image window does not open the file. (dragging it onto the gimp application does open the file) o right clicking on a selected layer does not pop up the layer options. (Ctrl-Click on a Mac). It does nothing. I have to go to the image window and select the Layer menu item, then Mask or Transparency to get to the options I want. o local help remains disabled in this version. I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4 or 2.6.????
Message-ID:<umyffk4v5.fsf@gmx.de>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:38:54 +0100
John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes:
> I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac
> coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4
> or 2.6.????
There are no Mac coders, the same source code is supposed to build and
work on all platforms.
Providing pre-built binaries for the platforms is usually done by
volunteers, and they should also know about any platform-specific
problems.
This is the first time that someone complains about non-working
shortcuts, though, so it might be a problem of your system.
HTH,
Michael
--
GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp
Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de
Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org |
Message-ID:<493462EE.4060504@earthlink.net>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 1 Dec 2008 23:19:26 +0100
Michael Schumacher wrote: > John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes: > >> I'm guessing this is just difficult for the Mac >> coders for some reason and will be fixed in 2.6.4 >> or 2.6.???? > > There are no Mac coders, the same source code is supposed to build and > work on all platforms. The Mac code seems to lag behind by weeks or more, so I think they may need to tweak some of the code to make it work, unfortunately. And it seems rough edges still are there in Mac Gimp 2.6.3. > Providing pre-built binaries for the platforms is usually done by > volunteers, and they should also know about any platform-specific > problems. > > This is the first time that someone complains about non-working > shortcuts, though, so it might be a problem of your system. > > > HTH, > Michael I tried to get to the Gimp mailing lists, but was roadblocked as I described in another post on this group, as here: > I just followed a link to Gimp mailing lists at: > > http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html > > and when I click on any of them I get: > > Secure Connection Failed > > lists.xcf.berkeley.edu uses an invalid security certificate. > > The certificate is not trusted because it is self signed. > The certificate expired on 11/6/06 4:06 PM. > > (Error code: sec_error_expired_issuer_certificate) > > Is this not the "correct" place for Gimp mailing lists? > > Thanks! I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle, or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they actually run the lists. And it looks like the only other way to ask about Gimp bugs is to submit the heavy weight highly formal intense automated bug report system (through filezilla or some such). I did one of these about 10 years ago on some program, and about every 18 months I'd get an automated email that someone had moved it here to there, or someone else had reported it, but no one ever solved the problem! So I'm sure that would go well. Anyway, I haven't found any easy way to talk about Mac gimp other than here, and it seems there aren't any or many Mac Gimp users here. It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases. It looks like I picked a bad time to try (yet again) to learn more Gimp. My last foray was about 8 months ago before I got on to other things. I came back, upgraded, and found some things that worked before don't now. Guess I'll move on to other things again and come back some time in the future. At least each time I have a slightly elevated base of knowledge. Some day it may all work! Thanks!
Message-ID:<uiqq3jy2o.fsf@gmx.de>
Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Tue, 2 Dec 2008 00:05:35 +0100
John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes:
> The Mac code seems to lag behind by weeks or more, so I think they
> may need to tweak some of the code to make it work, unfortunately.
If they have to and do not report this, then this would be
unfortunate, indeed. But as there are some users who build the source
code of GIMP on OS X without problems - even from SVN checkouts - I do
not think that is the problem.
> And it seems rough edges still are there in Mac Gimp 2.6.3.
Yes.
> I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using
> my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it
> may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle,
> or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they
> actually run the lists.
Yes, they should. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389193
> It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases.
Well, it's as simple as this:
If an isolated problem like yours is not reported as a bug, then it
won't get fixed.
HTH,
Michael
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Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Tue, 2 Dec 2008 02:05:50 +0100
Michael Schumacher wrote: > John <jhy001@earthlink.net> writes: > >> I could accept the invalid certificate, but in a year of using >> my Mac, I have NEVER had to do that. I think in this case it >> may be okay, but then again, there could be a man-in-the-middle, >> or, ... They should renew their certificate properly if they >> actually run the lists. > > Yes, they should. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389193 Ah, I see. It was only reported in 2006. I guess my other forgotten question on bugzilla (> 10 years old) may yet be solved then! ;-) >> It looks like I should just wait for a few more Mac releases. > > Well, it's as simple as this: > > If an isolated problem like yours is not reported as a bug, then it > won't get fixed. Well, I don't really believe it is an isolated problem. The 2.4 version I had was performing better. And I don't have any problem with all the three dozen or more applications I use almost daily on my Mac. This strongly suggests shortcomings in the dmg, or something really silly I'm doing with the application. Which wouldn't be a full blown bug reportable issue. So I think I'll wait a couple of releases. However long they take. So now, back to Financial programs and genealogy, and finish writing that Sudoku puzzle solver (I know others have posted many of these, I just like the challenge of coding it myself), and,... I'll revisit Gimp some day... :-)
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Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:40:39 +0100
There is a couple of programmers which works for Gimp (to count on the fingers of one hand, if they reached to a dozen, then is it all), and they give us for free an extrem enjoyful experience, nevertheless, nothing is perfect and nobody. But, after all, i think that's time for an Mac osx designed Gimp! Yes. If i could, i would begin immediately to write code for this great application! My Gimp (2.6.3) doesn't work well, how your one...
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Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:08:31 +0100
Jo_y <jo_y@operamail.com> writes:
> But, after all, i think that's time for an Mac osx designed Gimp! Yes.
Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first?
Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS
X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based
developers.
Michael
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Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Sun, 7 Dec 2008 16:31:36 +0100
> Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first? I mean an aqua -like interface, in pure Leopard design. If i could, i would start immediately to script and to code for Gimp, without hesitating. But this type of conversion isn't possible, because this would mean, programming it from scratch and cut the Navel cord with the Gimp- developers, which works in maior number on Linux (a very good selection) > Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS > X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based > developers. Yes..exactly, X11 is the problem... or whatever else windowing support, the endless add-ons drives me crazy. (much fewer is much better, because.. we know. It depends from the situation, i understand, but an solution must have a closely form, i mean, minor code, but quality code, instead of a couple of scripts- i exaggerate, in order to represent it more clearly) Anyway, i don't want to underestimate or minimize -in any case- the big effort of numerous programmers around the globe, everybody with his experiences, (programming knowledge) and his groups, because this generous mens and womens code in the good meaning to contribut a bit to their preferred application, Gimp, excluding the problems of platform compatibility, which operates in general very! well Bigger than an application becomes, and more force(s) are needed to control this 'Baby'
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Subject:
Re: Mac OS Gimp 2.6.3 issues
Date:Mon, 8 Dec 2008 15:18:41 +0100
On 7 Dez., 16:31, Jo_y <j...@operamail.com> wrote: > > Maybe you should define what an "Mac osx designed Gimp" is first? > I mean an aqua -like interface, in pure Leopard design. > > Could be that what you want is a GTK+ that does not require X11 on OS > > X. And for this task, it would be useful to have more OS-X-based > > developers. > > Yes..exactly, X11 is the problem... Exactly. And this is why Imendio has started porting GTK+ to OS X natively, see http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx Of course there's still a lot to do - the current state is described as unusable by most developers. Anyone who is interested in helping should have a look at the open bugs: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&product=gtk%2B&component=quartz&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO Michael