Need help with help

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Subject:

Need help with help

Date:Fri, 1 Jan 2010 13:08:20 +0100


  Running GIMP 2.6.7 on 32-bit Gentoo linux

  I know about RTFM, but clicking on "Help" is futile.
Step 1) I get an error box that says...
> help Messge
> Could not open 'http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-help.xml'
> for reading: Operation not supported

> Perhaps you are missing GIO backends and need to install GVFS

  What is it talking about?

Step 2) I open up that URL with Firefox 3.0.14 and I get a bunch of
gibberish like,,,

This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated
with it. The document tree is shown below.

<gimp-help>
<help-item id="gimp-main" ref="index.html" title="GNU Image Manipulation Program" parent=""/>
<help-item id="preface" ref="preface.html" title="Preface" parent="gimp-main"/>
<help-item id="gimp-team" ref="preface.html#gimp-team" title="1. GIMP User Manual Authors and Contributors" parent="preface"/>
<help-item id="getting-started" ref="getting-started.html" title="I. Getting Started" parent="gimp-main"/>
<help-item id="introduction" ref="introduction.html" title="1. Introduction" parent="getting-started"/>
<help-item id="introduction-gimp" ref="introduction.html#introduction-gimp" title="1. Welcome to GIMP" parent="introduction"/>

etc, etc, etc.  What am I missing?

-- 
Walter Dnes; my email address is *ALMOST* like wzaltdnes@waltdnes.org
Delete the "z" to get my real address.

Message-ID:<qsm%m.1795$0%7.1526@newsfe27.ams2>
Subject:

Re: Need help with help

Date:Fri, 1 Jan 2010 14:07:34 +0100

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:08:20 +0000, Walter Dnes (delete the 'z' to get my
real address) wrote:

> Running GIMP 2.6.7 on 32-bit Gentoo linux
> 
>   I know about RTFM, but clicking on "Help" is futile.
> Step 1) I get an error box that says...
>> help Messge
>> Could not open 'http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/gimp-help.xml' for reading:
>> Operation not supported
> 
>> Perhaps you are missing GIO backends and need to install GVFS
> 
>   What is it talking about?
> 
> Step 2) I open up that URL with Firefox 3.0.14 and I get a bunch of
> gibberish like,,,
> 
> This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated
> with it. The document tree is shown below.
> 
> <gimp-help>
> <help-item id="gimp-main" ref="index.html" title="GNU Image Manipulation
> Program" parent=""/> <help-item id="preface" ref="preface.html"
> title="Preface" parent="gimp-main"/> <help-item id="gimp-team"
> ref="preface.html#gimp-team" title="1. GIMP User Manual Authors and
> Contributors" parent="preface"/> <help-item id="getting-started"
> ref="getting-started.html" title="I. Getting Started"
> parent="gimp-main"/> <help-item id="introduction"
> ref="introduction.html" title="1. Introduction"
> parent="getting-started"/> <help-item id="introduction-gimp"
> ref="introduction.html#introduction-gimp" title="1. Welcome to GIMP"
> parent="introduction"/>
> 
> etc, etc, etc.  What am I missing?

I'm using Mepis (Debian) and my build is the same. Somewhere the url has 
changed and the gimp source has not kept up with the change.

If you back off one layer to http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/ in the browser 
then it works.

You might want to look at installing local help. The Debian gimp help is 
still trapped at gimp 2.4. As a fix I installed the 2.4 help then 
manually replaced the html + associated files with the 2.6 versions. 
A couple of ways to get the 2.6 help files, 1) use wget 2) use a windows 
machine install gimp then install help. Copy the help files to the linux 
folder, AFAIK its html and not OS specific.

A couple of screen shots that might/might-not be useful.
http://www.imageno.com/evgypvzca7ropic.html

Happy new year.

-- 
rich

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Subject:

Re: Need help with help

Date:Fri, 1 Jan 2010 15:23:02 +0100


On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:07:34 +0000, rich wrote:

> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:08:20 +0000, Walter Dnes (delete the 'z' to get
> my real address) wrote:
> 
>> Running GIMP 2.6.7 on 32-bit Gentoo linux
<snip>
>> etc, etc, etc.  What am I missing?
> 
> I'm using Mepis (Debian) and my build is the same. Somewhere the url has
> changed and the gimp source has not kept up with the change.
> 
> If you back off one layer to http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/ in the browser
> then it works.
> 
> You might want to look at installing local help. The Debian gimp help is
> still trapped at gimp 2.4. 

A quick search and I think gimp 2.6 help is available for gentoo

http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-doc/gimp-help

-- 
rich

Message-ID:<00ba3718$0$17133$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>
Subject:

Re: Need help with help

Date:Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:27:45 +0100

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:23:02 GMT, rich, <rich@nohome.com> wrote:
>  On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:07:34 +0000, rich wrote:
> 
> > If you back off one layer to http://docs.gimp.org/2.6/en/ in the
> > browser then it works.

  Thanks.  That works for me too.

>  A quick search and I think gimp 2.6 help is available for gentoo
> 
>  http://packages.gentoo.org/package/app-doc/gimp-help

  Thanks again.  The weird part is that I did enable the "doc" flag for
building gimp, which should pull in stuff like this.  I'll check on the
Gentoo mailing list whether this is working as designed.

-- 
Walter Dnes; my email address is *ALMOST* like wzaltdnes@waltdnes.org
Delete the "z" to get my real address.