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Message-ID:<EcCdnakmrdjSJZDUnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@posted.localnet>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:25:19 +0100


At Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:47:49 -0500 PDFrank <pdfrank@some.com> wrote:

> 
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
> 
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able 
> to read the file?

If you stick to Adobe's 'standard' 14 fonts, you probably don't need to
embed them.

>                                                       

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Message-ID:<6n5t7aFj7q5uU1@mid.individual.net>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:53:30 +0100


PDFrank wrote:
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?

I think so; but make sure that Arial is not the name of a font: it must 
be called Helvetica to be recognised (I think most software that uses it 
as a default does this anyway).

> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able 
> to read the file?

I have shipped PDFs containing any of the default "35" for years and 
no-one has ever said they couldn't read or print it.

///Peter




Message-ID:<EfWdnUtgi_7gSpDUnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@posted.palinacquisition>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:38:20 +0100


If creating smaller PDF files is your goal, give PDF-XChange a try; creates 
smaller files.

http://www.docu-track.com/


-- 
Don - PDF-XChange ProŽ/PDF-XChange Viewer ProŽ
Vancouver, USA


"PDFrank" <pdfrank@some.com> wrote in message 
news:gciPk.38068$nl3.13205@newsfe01.iad...
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
>
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able to 
> read the file? 






Message-ID:<b84039fc-f407-4836-bf8b-819c2f081940@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:52:16 +0100


On Nov 2, 8:47=A0am, PDFrank <pdfr...@some.com> wrote:
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
>
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able
> to read the file?

If you use Times-Roman and Helvetica, any standard-adhering PDF
consumer *must* be able to read the file and render it appropriately.
This is mandated by the standard.

Arial, however, is NOT one of the standard 14. It is often used to
substitute for Helvetica, but if your PDF actually references Arial
and does not embed it, some (dumb) consumer somewhere may not know it
is a close substitute for Helvetica.  If not embedding, always use the
name Helvetica, not Arial.




Message-ID:<EcCdnakmrdjSJZDUnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@posted.localnet>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:25:19 +0100


At Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:47:49 -0500 PDFrank <pdfrank@some.com> wrote:

> 
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
> 
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able 
> to read the file?

If you stick to Adobe's 'standard' 14 fonts, you probably don't need to
embed them.

>                                                       

-- 
Robert Heller             -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar!
Deepwoods Software        -- Linux Installation and Administration
http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database
heller@deepsoft.com       -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk
                                                   




Message-ID:<6n5t7aFj7q5uU1@mid.individual.net>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:53:30 +0100


PDFrank wrote:
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?

I think so; but make sure that Arial is not the name of a font: it must 
be called Helvetica to be recognised (I think most software that uses it 
as a default does this anyway).

> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able 
> to read the file?

I have shipped PDFs containing any of the default "35" for years and 
no-one has ever said they couldn't read or print it.

///Peter




Message-ID:<EfWdnUtgi_7gSpDUnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@posted.palinacquisition>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:38:20 +0100


If creating smaller PDF files is your goal, give PDF-XChange a try; creates 
smaller files.

http://www.docu-track.com/


-- 
Don - PDF-XChange ProŽ/PDF-XChange Viewer ProŽ
Vancouver, USA


"PDFrank" <pdfrank@some.com> wrote in message 
news:gciPk.38068$nl3.13205@newsfe01.iad...
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
>
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able to 
> read the file? 






Message-ID:<b84039fc-f407-4836-bf8b-819c2f081940@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:52:16 +0100


On Nov 2, 8:47=A0am, PDFrank <pdfr...@some.com> wrote:
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
>
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able
> to read the file?

If you use Times-Roman and Helvetica, any standard-adhering PDF
consumer *must* be able to read the file and render it appropriately.
This is mandated by the standard.

Arial, however, is NOT one of the standard 14. It is often used to
substitute for Helvetica, but if your PDF actually references Arial
and does not embed it, some (dumb) consumer somewhere may not know it
is a close substitute for Helvetica.  If not embedding, always use the
name Helvetica, not Arial.




Message-ID:<EcCdnakmrdjSJZDUnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@posted.localnet>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:25:19 +0100


At Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:47:49 -0500 PDFrank <pdfrank@some.com> wrote:

> 
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
> 
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able 
> to read the file?

If you stick to Adobe's 'standard' 14 fonts, you probably don't need to
embed them.

>                                                       

-- 
Robert Heller             -- Get the Deepwoods Software FireFox Toolbar!
Deepwoods Software        -- Linux Installation and Administration
http://www.deepsoft.com/  -- Web Hosting, with CGI and Database
heller@deepsoft.com       -- Contract Programming: C/C++, Tcl/Tk
                                                   




Message-ID:<6n5t7aFj7q5uU1@mid.individual.net>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:53:30 +0100


PDFrank wrote:
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?

I think so; but make sure that Arial is not the name of a font: it must 
be called Helvetica to be recognised (I think most software that uses it 
as a default does this anyway).

> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able 
> to read the file?

I have shipped PDFs containing any of the default "35" for years and 
no-one has ever said they couldn't read or print it.

///Peter




Message-ID:<EfWdnUtgi_7gSpDUnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@posted.palinacquisition>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:38:20 +0100


If creating smaller PDF files is your goal, give PDF-XChange a try; creates 
smaller files.

http://www.docu-track.com/


-- 
Don - PDF-XChange ProŽ/PDF-XChange Viewer ProŽ
Vancouver, USA


"PDFrank" <pdfrank@some.com> wrote in message 
news:gciPk.38068$nl3.13205@newsfe01.iad...
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not 
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
>
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able to 
> read the file? 






Message-ID:<b84039fc-f407-4836-bf8b-819c2f081940@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Subject:

Re: MUST I embed fonts?


Date:Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:52:16 +0100


On Nov 2, 8:47=A0am, PDFrank <pdfr...@some.com> wrote:
> If I stick to Times-Roman and Helvetica/Arial, can I get by with not
> embedding fonts to keep the size of the file small?
>
> Or am I running a risk that someone, somewhere, sometime, won't be able
> to read the file?

If you use Times-Roman and Helvetica, any standard-adhering PDF
consumer *must* be able to read the file and render it appropriately.
This is mandated by the standard.

Arial, however, is NOT one of the standard 14. It is often used to
substitute for Helvetica, but if your PDF actually references Arial
and does not embed it, some (dumb) consumer somewhere may not know it
is a close substitute for Helvetica.  If not embedding, always use the
name Helvetica, not Arial.




 

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